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Fritzy 04-24-2003, 16:24 #46

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hey, apparently include works for remote files according to http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.include.php

I'll make sure to play with it and let you know.

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kNIGits 04-24-2003, 18:36 #47

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Whoah... hold on here. You're saying there's already a notification script of some sort in PHPBB? Man, then it should be uber-easy to patch in Jabber notification instead!

You can currently 'subscribe' to a topic, and the forum emails you when there are replies. Gossip's Invision Board mod allows users to select if they want email or Jabber messages. We should do something similar. I'm sure that there are some members who still want email notifications.

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DarkLord 04-28-2003, 10:56 #48

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I'm eagerly awaiting the release of this phpBB MOD / Jabber Bot.

Actually this seems to be EXACTLY what I've been looking for for some time now - unfortunately I wouldn't have the time nor the knowledge to actually do such stuff with this kind of functionality myself, so thank you!

Currently I'm re-building my community using (guess what?) phpBB and a Jabber server. So it's been very frustrating to see there isn't even a Jabber ID field in phpBB.

I see that the Jabber Bot isn't exactly finished yet, right? But what about the phpBB integration - is this going to change a lot? If not wouldn't it be possible to release the "phpBB MOD" (everything you had to change in phpBB source files and the database) right now, and give away the bot (and the entire package) later?

This would help me a lot since, my phpBB should be up and running by the weekend, and I'm not sure if I should go on and try to implement a Jabber ID field and some kind of websend on my own, after I've seen how well you guys did it...

Of course i don't want to rush you, but if you think the phpBB-modifieing part could be done already then ....please

DarkLord 04-28-2003, 11:04 #49

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Of course I'd be interested in all the other cool features you might implement, like getting a jabebr message instead of an email when there is a reply to a subscribed topic.

There should/could be some more options in the users control panel, where he has something like this:

Receive reply-notifications via:
1. eMail
2. Jabber
3. both

I THINK something like this could be easily done for everything where there already is some kind of email-sending involved. Like Private Messages, administrative emails (like the option "receive email when new user registers") ... whew, if this will be possible in the future the conversion to phpBB from my old board (yabbse) really was woth it

DarkLord 04-28-2003, 11:45 #50

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I just realized that the current modification that is used here in this phpBB actually replaces the users email field with the 'new' jabber id field at some places, like right here in viewtopic, or in the memberlist.
I can see that the email field is still there in my profile, but not having access to other users email adresses anymore seems to be adrawback.

So I'd like to aks if this is intentional or if this is just a temporary solution, that was easier to do.

This could be one hell of a phpBB MOD, so I'd like to know if the final version will still be removing features/buttons that had been there previously or if it will just add the cool Jabber features (in other forums, removing the other IMs from the profile wouldn't be a good idea I guess

) - e.g. the memberlist could have the email and the jabber button.

I didn't want to offend anyone or somthing with this, I think you're all aware of what i mean, so i'd just wanted to point it out and ask if there will be such a 'add-on'-MOD sooner or later.

DarkLord 04-28-2003, 13:41 #51

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One more suggestion:

If you get a jabber message through the forum right now you only see something like:

"edgar@jabber.rocks.cc: <messagetext>"

It would be nice to know what forum user or service (board-system messages like notifications and private message indications) send you the message.

So if the user DarkLord uses the "Send a Jabber Message" window the recipent should see somethin like:

"edgar@jabber.rocks.cc: DarkLord send: <messagetext>"

so that there ALWAYS is a field that clearl states which registered user send you this message - this should not be alterable by the user sending the message.

If guest-sending is allowed the user should just be 'guest' so that the one receiving the message sees where this message comes from.

Just my 2 cent

Fritzy 04-28-2003, 15:08 #52

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I just realized that the current modification that is used here in this phpBB actually replaces the users email field with the 'new' jabber id field at some places, like right here in viewtopic, or in the memberlist.

If it does that, then I wasn't aware that it did! You're right, it shouldn't.

So if the user DarkLord uses the "Send a Jabber Message" window the recipent should see somethin like:

"edgar@jabber.rocks.cc: DarkLord send: <messagetext>"

The subject line contains all that information AND MORE, though, because some people force "chat" type, we may end up re-arranging some of it into the message itself. But yeah, look in the subject line.

Just so you guys know... Jabber notifications are "working" right now. They haven't been fully tested yet, but feel free to enable them. We haven't officially announced it yet because we haven't had a chance to work out all the kinks.

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DarkLord 04-28-2003, 15:35 #53

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Ah yes, I see. I'm one of those who force the so called 'chat-mode' - I couldn't using 'message' mode

So it's propably not *that* much of a concern at all... what do others think?

I don't know about PSI at the moment, but my current Jabber Client is configured to interpret everything as 'chat' but if a 'message' is received there is the option to quickly view every since 'message' (one line in a chat) in its original 'message' form. If this is common for other messengers (especially PSI) i guess the current websend-method would be alright.

If you guys have the jabber id field integrated additionally into the phpBB please share, will you? I'm afraid to brake too much things

Fritzy 04-28-2003, 17:00 #54

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As far as an official phpBB mod, the phpBB team is already working on Jabber support for their next version anyway, plus the fact that this mod has been done by at least 3 of us, each of us with only working knowledge of how our own part works.

In short, don't expect a mod from us anytime soon. Check out Carlo's Invision board mod for Jabber. I honestly think that's a better way to go until phpBB comes out with a version supporting Jabber.

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kNIGits 04-28-2003, 18:53 #55

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I just realized that the current modification that is used here in this phpBB actually replaces the users email field with the 'new' jabber id field at some places, like right here in viewtopic, or in the memberlist.
I can see that the email field is still there in my profile, but not having access to other users email adresses anymore seems to be adrawback.

So I'd like to aks if this is intentional or if this is just a temporary solution, that was easier to do.

This has nothing to do with our mod. There's an option in your profile to enable public viewing of your email, and it's disabled by default. As an admin, I see everyone's email icon beneath their posts anyway. I think it's wise to disable public viewing of your email to avoid spambots.

This could be one hell of a phpBB MOD, so I'd like to know if the final version will still be removing features/buttons that had been there previously or if it will just add the cool Jabber features (in other forums, removing the other IMs from the profile wouldn't be a good idea I guess

We intentionally removed other IMs from the profiles because we choose to only support Jabber here. We didn't remove the fields from the database, so if you want to keep the other IMs, don't remove the code from the php scripts.

I tend to agree with Fritzy about releasing this as a mod. We probably won't do it. What we will do is release our modified files for people to look at. You can get a pretty good idea how it all works simply by looking at them. If you are using the same version of phpBB as us, you should be able to simply drop the new scripts in the appropriate directories and modify the database... and it *should* work.

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DarkLord 04-29-2003, 08:03 #56

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I see

Well it's unfortunate, but I guess theres nothing I could do about it.
I'll just have to try and see if I can adequately modify my database and all the places, where I want this JID to show up.

While phpBB is a great board, its far from being something like feature-complete or so. Actually there are some more or less important options missing, that even Yabb SE already has. So yes, waiting for some new release might be a good idea, but the best thing about phpBB is its great community support. There are thousands of high-quality mods and at least some of them are a great addition to phpBBs functionalty.

Therefor most community driven websites customize their forums - the only bad about this is that actually upgrading to a new version of phpBB takes time - you have to re-implement the MODs you had (at least those that have not become integrated into the main phpBB already).

So yes, a new version of phpBB is ALWAYS very welcome but there doesn't seem to be one in sight REAL soon, and I don't think it would be wrong to have MODs for 'older versions' that spice those up a bit - especially such important things like jabebr integration

But I'll see what i can do - so when the bot is release it might even be possible for me to integrate it

IF I'll have this working I'll be sure to make it available for others, but no promises yet

kNIGits 04-29-2003, 08:14 #57

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DarkLord, hacking phpBB is fairly hard if you've never seen it before. We have had a bit of fun trying to work out exactly how it works. OK, I lied; it wasn't all that much fun. The code could be a bit cleaner, and at least have some comments in there.

As soon as we are happy that our modifications are working properly (and all bugs squashed), we will put the code up for everyone to have a look at. I don't really see the sense in trying to re-invent the wheel, when you could wait a week or two and have all our work available for nothing. Having said that, don't let me stop you hacking if you really want to. :-)

What I meant when I said that we're not making a phpBB mod - is just that creating a phpBB mod file in the proper format is just a pain in the arse, and we think that providing the modified files is good enough. If you want to know exactly where we changed them, simply run the files through 'diff'.

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DarkLord 04-29-2003, 09:40 #58

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I don't really see the sense in trying to re-invent the wheel, when you could wait a week or two and have all our work available for nothing. Having said that, don't let me stop you hacking if you really want to.

True

Yeah, I find phpBB pretty hard to understand.. especially the way they organised themes gave me a headache or to first

What I meant when I said that we're not making a phpBB mod - is just that creating a phpBB mod file in the proper format is just a pain in the arse, and we think that providing the modified files is good enough. If you want to know exactly where we changed them, simply run the files through 'diff'.

Oh - now I got it... sorry :red:

In THAT case I'll just do exactly what you said (though I'll have to find out about 'diff' first :rolleyes:

), find out what you changed, and... see if I can make this into a 'MOD' for others

Greets

nE0sIghT 03-26-2007, 08:32 #59

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For those, who interested in Jabber for phpBB...
http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=3…

MOD Title: Jabber IM MoD
MOD Description: This MoD adds Jabber IM support to the board: Jabber support for profiles, all kinds of notifications, which are usually made by e-mail, account activation via JabberIM, Jabber messaging via board etc. This features can be combined with standart e-mail features but this MoD adds optional ability to totally disable e-mail functionality.
MOD Version: 1.1.2

michalj (Moderator) 03-26-2007, 10:26 #60

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We have stopped using phpBB a long time ago. And we even have switched from using IPB to UNB, which has built-in Jabber support. But nevertheless, thanks.

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