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11-16-2005, 12:33 by halr9000
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pattie102 #31
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what about pm-redirection or notification?
(well, probably nobody will be using that ;) )
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Fritzy #32
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Additionally, I think that only LOGGED IN USERS should be able to send someone an IM via PHPBB.

what about pm-redirection or notification?

Actually, yes, that's what we're talking about.  :-)
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kNIGits #33
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I think it would be VERY easy to do IM messaging on the PHPBB board.
Yeah, sending IM from the web is the easiest thing about the Class.  All three of my personal sites use it whenever someone leaves a comment.
I also think that your vCard script could be improved to <presence type='probe'/> for the users <status> message.
I'm not sure I follow the "type=probe" part... I haven't studied the Class as indepth as you have...
I would think it would be more logical the opposite direction
So when someone clicks the Jabber icon, it pops up a message window, with a link to open their vCard if you want it?
we'd need to know exactly how the PHPBB database works.
The phpBB database structure is a little tricky to initially come to grips with, but it kind of makes sense after a while.  It took me a bit to integrate the Announcements Forum with the main Psi website news, but I got there.
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I'm not sure I follow the "type=probe" part... I haven't studied the Class as indepth as you have...
Basically, you can probe for a users presence, and expect a prompt answer, instead of waiting to be told about presence.

So when someone clicks the Jabber icon, it pops up a message window, with a link to open their vCard if you want it?
Exactly.  Maybe even use the vCard Icon from Psi Messages.

The phpBB database structure is a little tricky to initially come to grips with, but it kind of makes sense after a while.  It took me a bit to integrate the Announcements Forum with the main Psi website news, but I got there.
Do you think you'd know how to go about messaging a group of users when a new post has been made without causing extreme lag for the poster?
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Fritzy #35
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I just noticed http://psi.affinix.com/forums/search.php?s...rch_id=newposts

I think understanding how that works will be the key.
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kNIGits #36
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I'm happy to update the vCard so that it does what we just discussed.  The Psi vCard icon is a tad small, but I'm sure that I can knock up a similar one a bit larger...

Do you think you'd know how to go about messaging a group of users when a new post has been made without causing extreme lag for the poster?

I don't see how it would take any longer than the current method of sending email for notifications.  We'd just have to work out a way to make it do it in the background after the message has been posted.  In the worst possible scenario, we could use a tiny <iframe> at the bottom of the page that loads the notification-sending script seperately... kind of like the way I do the status at my homepage.
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...we could use a tiny <iframe> at the bottom of the page that loads the notification-sending script seperately...

But what about all those Psi users that use links as their browser.

Wait, what'd I just say?!
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Fritzy #38
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I don't see how it would take any longer than the current method of sending email for notifications.

Whoah... hold on here.  You're saying there's already a notification script of some sort in PHPBB?  Man, then it should be uber-easy to patch in Jabber notification instead!

instead of email($user, $message); we'd have jabber($jid, $message);  That'd be incredibly easy!  The one thing you'd want to be careful about is that you'd only want to log in once to send a whole batch of messages.  As long as you did that, it wouldn't be horrible lag.
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kNIGits #39
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Yeah, yeah.  Frames are evil.  Whatever.

There certainly must be a better method of running a notification sending script in the background... perhaps we can fork a php cgi that runs in the background while the user casually continues on, mind in neutral.  This may not work, of course.  The server might not let us run a command line script in this way.

I'm probably just sprouting rubbish that has no basis in reality.
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I'm probably just sprouting rubbish that has no basis in reality.

Yeah, being as it's 4am here, I'm sure that I'm spouting rubbish.  But in all seriousness I think we came up with some good ideas, and it looks like we have a plan on how to tackle these two features in the near future.

I need to go to bed.  Take care.
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jeremy #41
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Would be nice to have the status message (along side the actual status written out) popup on mouse over of the icon if that's possible.
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kNIGits #42
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I agree with you Jeremy.  It's one of the first things I'd like to add next.
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kNIGIts: Maybe you could convince your provider to allow remote SQL access from Affinix.com?
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kNIGits #44
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kNIGIts: Maybe you could convince your provider to allow remote SQL access from Affinix.com?

Surely there's a php function that will allow us to include the output of a remote script...  I've modified Edgar's type=text parameter slightly to show plain text without a box, it would be perfect for the mouseover.
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I saw that, and I was thinking the same thing when you did.  But I haven't found a way to include remotely yet.  Besides, it would be an extra set of SQL queries for you to swallow.
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