Huge mistake on web pages!

cliff_dugal 11-16-2005, 16:47 #16

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There seem to be two different Serbia: Serbia and Montenegro together and Serbia alone, both with different country flags.

I think you're interpreting it wrong. From those pages, I get that Serbia is a republic of Serbia and Montenegro. So, Serbia and Montenegro is the name of the country, while Serbia is a part of the country. Just like provinces can have a flag that's not a country flag, Serbia can have its own flag.

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Then why don't they call the country a unique name not two appended by "and"? Like say...Yugoslavia.

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cliff_dugal 11-16-2005, 18:27 #18

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I thought you said you weren't going get into politics Hal...

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hahaha

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machekku 11-16-2005, 19:21 #20

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Then why don't they call the country a unique name not two appended by "and"? Like say...Yugoslavia.

Do you think "United States of America" is a unique name?

It's the same naming template, but in this case, a small optimization was needed not to list all 49 (?) states.
Hey, look: "Serbia and Montenegro" is even better, because there is no "United" in the name.

Eh.. I read this again and now I'm sure that I should be sleeping already

Just in case I will say clearly: I have nothing against names like these.

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cliff_dugal 11-16-2005, 19:44 #21

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I think Hal is mostly against "and" in a name. For example, "the countries of Serbia and Montenegro and Hungary touch each other". It's a bit confusing. I do agree that United States of America is almost as bad though. Single names are much better in my opinion. But, we're not here to rename countries. (Or at least I'm not. :ph34r:

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Then why don't they call the country a unique name not two appended by "and"? Like say...Yugoslavia.

Assuming you love Georgia a lot: would you prefer to live in "Alabama-Georgia", "Alaborgia", or "Remkoda" ? Or, choose to live in "America-Canada", "Americanada", or "Remkoda"

- Remko

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11-17-2005, 03:04 #23

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Hello guys !

For me this was very hard to track

And now explanation.

Before 15 years there was Yugosalvia locale "yu", then there was a war and different states were created:
1.Slovinia (I think it's locale is sl),
2.Croatia (locale hr as on our language we say Hrvatska it's the name of our state, Croatian aka. Hrvatski is the name of our language and it's letters are Latin),
3.Bosnia and Hertzegovina aka Bosna and Hercegovina (but it' another story)
4.Serbia and Montenegro - (story with this state if very long and if you are interested I could write it if you are interested, well story of our history is not so long but a lot of people don't know it).

cliff_dugal has previously the right links to Croatian and to "Serbia and Montenegro" flags. But the story with Serbia and Montenegro is that this state is conformed with two countries one is Serbia and the other is Montenegro (united). Each of these countries have his own flag, but if you are reffering to them as "Serbia and Montenegro" cliff_dugal has the link to that state.

Croatian states for Hrvatski. Locale "hr".
Serbian states for Srpski written on latin but also states Српски written on cyrillic. Locale for both "sr".

But there will be also problems as Serbians and Montenegros are two different people. In Montenegro there is living a very large numbers of Serbs but they are still minority there and in the future possibly I'm not sure but there could be two states Serbia with their flag and Montenegro with their. They are using the same letters and that is Cyrillic but although the same letter but different language

Red flag with eagle seal is Albania and dosen't have anything to do with these states....

Cratia - red/white/blue with seal in the shape of chessboard in red and white -> http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/flags/hr-fla…
Serbia - red/blue/white but i think thay also have two headed eagle seal but i'm not sure

I realy don't know which flag you should put for Serbia/Serpski/Српски (all three are the same). Maybe the one that is already there beside text written Српски but I think the gray line shouldn't be there.

So cliff_dugal was the almost right, only Hrvatski stands for Croatian. Everyone had a piece of correct information.
I hope I have clarified everything

There is also one more thing I would like to say about history.... there are a lot of informations about closer history of our nations and what we have put through. I visited some links that were mentioned on this forum and I can say that tehere are a lot of false informations... If you have read one side of the story read the other also to get a big and clear picture. Thx!

This post was edited on 11-17-2005, 03:06 by preky1.

machekku 11-17-2005, 05:51 #24

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Quote by cliff_dugal:
I think Hal is mostly against "and" in a name. For example, "the countries of Serbia and Montenegro and Hungary touch each other". It's a bit confusing.

We have another word for "and" in Polish and it works really good in such situations (when you need another level of "and"). So it would be like "Serbia i Czarnogóra oraz Węgry", where "i" is normal "and", "oraz" is the "outer" "and".

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Thanks preky1

Quote by preky1:
There is also one more thing I would like to say about history.... there are a lot of informations about closer history of our nations and what we have put through. I visited some links that were mentioned on this forum and I can say that tehere are a lot of false informations... If you have read one side of the story read the other also to get a big and clear picture. Thx!

I agree, and this is probably the main reason for everybody's confusion... We can't even keep history acurate on a event that happened 2 or 3 years ago... We should value history a little more. How can we learn from history if the fact is bent. <_<

I will update the flag and the language code on the site. Should be updated in 2 or 3 hours when I get to a computer that can access the system.

Thanks again.
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There are two different kind of people, smart ones thinking with thier brain and the other that don't think at all...

There is always somebody trying to sell his story to the stupid ones!!! (unfortunatly they are buying it.)
On Croatian: "Prevesti žedne preko vode" or on English a bit hard to translate but i'll try "Lead thirsty across the river"

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Well in ref to Cliff, you could just say "America" and nobody would think you were referring to the entire western hemisphere like they did in the Age of Exploration.

N America means USA+Canada, S America means the couple of dozen down below the strait that is Central America. America by itself means USA.

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Assuming you love Georgia a lot: would you prefer to live in "Alabama-Georgia", "Alaborgia", or "Remkoda" ? Or, choose to live in "America-Canada", "Americanada", or "Remkoda"

Good analogy. I like to call the state to my west "Alabamistan", Texas is "Texico", and California is "Kalifornia", but that is neither here nor there. Seriously, if a couple of states were to merge, the only logical thing I can imagine happening is that they would pick a new name or a combination thereof.

I vote for "The Sprawl". (see William Gibson's books)

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halr9000 (Administrator) 11-17-2005, 13:33 #28

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Quote by preky1:
There is always somebody trying to sell his story to the stupid ones!!! (unfortunatly they are buying it.)
On Croatian: "Prevesti žedne preko vode" or on English a bit hard to translate but i'll try "Lead thirsty across the river"

In English that is, "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink."

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11-18-2005, 01:39 #29

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you must be joking about the flags or your CMS is crazy and don't know what you are telling "it" to do:

Finally, after this mess I caused I can see that:
1) there is no Cratian pack for Psi
2) that you are still mixing the flags...or as I said your CMS is crazy and think we his head... there is a flaw in algoritham
3) you don't know what to do now

or you don't care (after all why should you?)

Check the flags, algoritham and local shortcuts... there is something wrong.

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4. Akiton didn't make it to the computer with access to the system.

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